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Joe Biden

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	Woll Smoth 2025/07/07 (Mon) 09:30:55 #10107
	I suggest IDRlabs move Joe Biden from ENFJ to ESFJ: I agree that Joe Biden is Fe dominant, but I won't go too deep into that territory and will mostly focus on the S and N distinction (as well as Si and Ni). For starters, I think his N is too low to be one of his uppermost functions, semi-conscious N makes a lot more sense. As IDRlabs has said in their basic general portrait of ENFJs, “the ENFJ tends to have an intellectual, even scholarly, side which they use to delve into abstract problems concerning the whole of society, if not the world. In truth, most ENFJs are quite comfortable juggling complex facts and challenging situations that require a firm grasp of the theory involved.” This "intellectual" and "abstract" side of the ENFJ is in no small part due to their auxiliary Ni, which is arguably the most abstract function imo. Anyway back to Joe Biden, there seems to be much more evidence of him not being oriented towards the abstract: The Atlantic: “Though plenty smart, Biden is not an intellectual. He makes few references to books and learned influences in his speeches and autobiography, and he displays little interest in theory. An indifferent student at the University of Delaware and Syracuse University College of Law—he describes the latter as 'boring'—Biden got by with prodigious cramming sessions. Today, by contrast, he is described by Tony Blinken, Biden’s national-security adviser, as a compulsive studier who likes to be overbriefed." Howard Fineman: “Biden is not an academic, he's not a theoretical thinker, he's a great street pol." Regarding Si specifically, some quotes about Biden where I find that Fe supported by Si (meticulous, practical) makes more sense than Fe supported by Ni (ideational, holistic): The Atlantic: “The guideposts in Biden’s political landscape are often not ideas, but people. Many of the world leaders with whom the United States has business are men and women he has known for years, even decades. In fall 2009, for example, after Obama had decided to abandon plans to build land-based missile defenses in eastern Europe—a move interpreted as a concession to Moscow—the White House sent Biden on a three-day swing through Poland, Romania, and the Czech Republic to reassure the leaders of those countries that their security would not be compromised. Biden had mastered the details of the issue—the virtues of sea-based anti-missile technology versus land-based, and so on—but his most important asset was that he knew many of the leaders personally.” This last point isn't going to be my strongest point but it is something to consider. IDRlabs defines Si as "a way of perceiving psychic material by way of past impressions that have been subjectively associated with the outer occurrence at hand, causing the subject to experience deep and ineffable qualities in even ordinary sensations." Here is another quote from Mark Bowden from The Atlantic about Joe Biden that seems to suggest that Joe Biden could have a preference for Si: The Atlantic: “In his personal life, Biden could hardly be more traditional. In the scruffy ’60s, when so many young men of his generation went unkempt as a social and political statement, Biden dressed up for class in college, sometimes wearing a tie. He says his first wife, Neilia, described him as ‘the most socially conservative man she had ever known.’” One might interpret Joe Biden being "traditional" and "socially conservative" is a result of the subjective significance in the routines he has become accustomed to.

Editing post #10107 by Woll Smoth I suggest IDRlabs move Joe Biden from ENFJ to ESFJ: I agree that Joe Biden is Fe dominant, but I won't go too deep into that territory and will mostly focus on the S and N distinction (as well as Si and Ni). For starters, I think his N is too low to be one of his uppermost functions, semi-conscious N makes a lot more sense. As IDRlabs has said in their basic general portrait of ENFJs, “the ENFJ tends to have an intellectual, even scholarly, side which they use to delve into abstract problems concerning the whole of society, if not the world. In truth, most ENFJs are quite comfortable juggling complex facts and challenging situations that require a firm grasp of the theory involved.” This "intellectual" and "abstract" side of the ENFJ is in no small part due to their auxiliary Ni, which is arguably the most abstract function imo. Anyway back to Joe Biden, there seems to be much more evidence of him not being oriented towards the abstract: The Atlantic: “Though plenty smart, Biden is not an intellectual. He makes few references to books and learned influences in his speeches and autobiography, and he displays little interest in theory. An indifferent student at the University of Delaware and Syracuse University College of Law—he describes the latter as 'boring'—Biden got by with prodigious cramming sessions. Today, by contrast, he is described by Tony Blinken, Biden’s national-security adviser, as a compulsive studier who likes to be overbriefed." Howard Fineman: “Biden is not an academic, he's not a theoretical thinker, he's a great street pol." Regarding Si specifically, some quotes about Biden where I find that Fe supported by Si (meticulous, practical) makes more sense than Fe supported by Ni (ideational, holistic): The Atlantic: “The guideposts in Biden’s political landscape are often not ideas, but people. Many of the world leaders with whom the United States has business are men and women he has known for years, even decades. In fall 2009, for example, after Obama had decided to abandon plans to build land-based missile defenses in eastern Europe—a move interpreted as a concession to Moscow—the White House sent Biden on a three-day swing through Poland, Romania, and the Czech Republic to reassure the leaders of those countries that their security would not be compromised. Biden had mastered the details of the issue—the virtues of sea-based anti-missile technology versus land-based, and so on—but his most important asset was that he knew many of the leaders personally.” This last point isn't going to be my strongest point but it is something to consider. IDRlabs defines Si as "a way of perceiving psychic material by way of past impressions that have been subjectively associated with the outer occurrence at hand, causing the subject to experience deep and ineffable qualities in even ordinary sensations." Here is another quote from Mark Bowden from The Atlantic about Joe Biden that seems to suggest that Joe Biden could have a preference for Si: The Atlantic: “In his personal life, Biden could hardly be more traditional. In the scruffy ’60s, when so many young men of his generation went unkempt as a social and political statement, Biden dressed up for class in college, sometimes wearing a tie. He says his first wife, Neilia, described him as ‘the most socially conservative man she had ever known.’” One might interpret Joe Biden being "traditional" and "socially conservative" is a result of the subjective significance in the routines he has become accustomed to.
Replying to post #10107 by Woll Smoth

date	username	vote
21/07/08 22:24	bibliology	ESFJ
20/11/23 14:44	nowhereman	ESFP
20/11/03 10:21	Darkstar	ESFJ
21/03/19 19:22	Tman	ISFJ
19/10/01 14:00	strawberry crisis	ESFP
19/05/27 12:58	LadyX	ESFP
19/05/26 05:19	jt	ENFJ

date	username	vote
25/07/11 04:05	nicotineseries	ESFJ
25/07/02 08:39	Woll Smoth	ESFJ
21/03/19 19:22	Tman	ISFJ
20/11/23 14:44	nowhereman	ESFP
20/11/03 10:21	Darkstar	ENFJ

date	username	vote
20/11/23 14:46	nowhereman	2w3
20/11/03 10:21	Darkstar	2w3
19/10/01 13:09	Tman	6w7
19/05/26 18:03	LadyX	6w7

date	username	vote
20/11/03 10:21	Darkstar	so/sx
20/03/14 11:40	Tman	sp/so
19/05/26 18:03	LadyX	sx/so

date	username	vote
21/03/19 19:23	Tman	693
20/11/03 10:21	Darkstar	269
20/03/14 02:31	LadyX	693
19/11/21 01:03	ResoluteSoul	683

date	username	vote
20/11/23 17:42	Tman	ESE
20/11/03 10:21	Darkstar	ESE
20/02/09 16:14	Thyssen	ESE

date	username	vote
20/03/14 02:31	LadyX	FEVL