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Niels Bohr

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Niels Bohr ~ Sakinorva Databank

Niels Bohr

Physicist

Science, Technology, and Engineering

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	strawberry crisis enfp 7 2018/10/20 (Sat) 07:15:40 #3719
	Hi, your arguments for 3 are definitely more convincing comparatively to my argument for 7, which is contingent upon portraying him as the scattered extravert he’s occasionally been described as, but there isn’t any real reason why a 3 couldn’t fit into that either. I’ll change my vote to 3w2–I’m not sure about his variants, but it would likely be something with an So in it.

Editing post #3719 by strawberry crisis <p>Hi, your arguments for 3 are definitely more convincing comparatively to my argument for 7, which is contingent upon portraying him as the scattered extravert he’s occasionally been described as, but there isn’t any real reason why a 3 couldn’t fit into that either. I’ll change my vote to 3w2–I’m not sure about his variants, but it would likely be something with an So in it.</p>
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	LadyX intp 5 2018/10/20 (Sat) 02:01:47 #3717
	Hello Strawberry, Bohr's administrative skills and being viewed as a father figure by many junior scientists “a scientific father confessor to the younger men.” - perhaps ENTJ suits him best - his activities are filled with extroverted thinking - organizing and leading - founding his own institute and mentoring others. "Though he never won, (his father) Christian Bohr was nominated for the Nobel Prize by one colleague in 1907 and by two in 1908, all for his research on the physiology of respiration." - this could produce the 3 strategy - motivation for Niels to fulfill his father's dream of winning the Nobel. " Bohr came up with the idea to dissolve a number of scientists' Nobel Prize medals in aqua regia to prevent the Germans from confiscating them during the occupation; the gold was precipitated after the war and the Nobel Foundation recast them." - An innovative and systematic approach to preserve the dignity of a group of cohorts, this sounds ENTJ (extroverted thinking, introverted intuition, and some introverted feeling) - down to his expectation that times would change and the medals would be able to be recovered when the world came to its senses. " In 1921, Niels Bohr founded the Institute of Theoretical Physics at the University of Copenhagen, which later officially became the Niels Bohr Institute. With the rise of the Nazi regime in Germany in 1933, many Jewish intellectuals lost their jobs. Niels Bohr set up the Danish Committee for the Support of Refugee Intellectual Workers the same year. Bohr provided the refugees with financial support and gave them temporary jobs at his Institute before they obtained permanent appointment elsewhere, most often in the United States." Acting as a father figure for his institute and for others in need - consistent with ENTJ. Although he shows a lot of "feeler" qualities he is quite rational and reserved for a 7. I don't see him as a primary 5, his motivations were not entirely about seeking knowledge and solving problems - he seems to have sought leadership roles on teams and in his institute as a priority. I like the tritype from heavyheart of 359, but not sure about the 9. I'll change my vote to 3w2 sp/so ("The Hero, sp 3w2"), ENTJ.

Editing post #3717 by LadyX <p>Hello Strawberry,</p> <p>Bohr's administrative skills and being viewed as a father figure by many junior scientists <em>“a scientific father confessor to the younger men.”</em> - perhaps ENTJ suits him best - his activities are filled with extroverted thinking - organizing and leading - founding his own institute and mentoring others. </p> <p>"<em>Though he never won, (his father) Christian Bohr was nominated for the Nobel Prize by one colleague in 1907 and by two in 1908, all for his research on the physiology of respiration</em>." - this could produce the 3 strategy - motivation for Niels to fulfill his father's dream of winning the Nobel.</p> <p>" <em>Bohr came up with the idea to dissolve a number of scientists' Nobel Prize medals in aqua regia to prevent the Germans from confiscating them during the occupation; the gold was precipitated after the war and the Nobel Foundation recast them</em>." - An innovative and systematic approach to preserve the dignity of a group of cohorts, this sounds ENTJ (extroverted thinking, introverted intuition, and some introverted feeling) - down to his expectation that times would change and the medals would be able to be recovered when the world came to its senses.</p> <p>" In 1921, Niels Bohr founded the <em>Institute of Theoretical Physics</em> at the University of Copenhagen, which later officially became the <em>Niels Bohr Institute</em>. With the rise of the <em>Nazi regime</em> in Germany in 1933, many Jewish intellectuals lost their jobs. Niels Bohr set up the <em>Danish Committee for the Support of Refugee Intellectual Workers</em> the same year. Bohr provided the refugees with financial support and gave them temporary jobs at his Institute before they obtained permanent appointment elsewhere, most often in the United States." Acting as a father figure for his institute and for others in need - consistent with ENTJ.</p> <p>Although he shows a lot of "feeler" qualities he is quite rational and reserved for a 7. I don't see him as a primary 5, his motivations were not entirely about seeking knowledge and solving problems - he seems to have sought leadership roles on teams and in his institute as a priority.</p> <p>I like the tritype from heavyheart of 359, but not sure about the 9. </p> <p>I'll change my vote to 3w2 sp/so ("The Hero, sp 3w2"), ENTJ.</p> <p> </p>
Replying to post #3717 by LadyX

	strawberry crisis enfp 7 2018/10/19 (Fri) 15:15:28 #3706
	LadyX: I would encourage ticking “function vote” for votes that are justified solely by function-based reasoning without direct reference to using function traits to vote for MBTI (i.e. votes that are determined by function analysis are not the same as votes that are determined by dimensional analysis). There are proponents of functions and dimensions belonging to the same system, but the MBTI is tested for using a method surrounding the dimensional model and there is no reasonable correlation between impressions of the functions and the tested-for dimensions. The reason I’m strict about this is because the table for functions and the table for dimensions calculate the entry’s type very differently, and I think function voters wouldn’t be fond of the averaging method that the MBTI table uses since it dissects votes by their dimensions and averages them out. Actually, I’ve set aside a default voting option in the profile editor so that “function vote” is automatically ticked for you without having to go through the effort of ticking it every time you’d want to vote by your preferred function voting method. That all said, I see merit in your 3w4 vote, but Bohr seemed to be a notorious procrastinator as a result of examining things thoroughly which gives me two big impressions: he wasn’t result-oriented and prized a genuine, thorough approach (perceiving in MBTI: staying open-ended by examining things in their full context despite “real-world” ramifications), and did not seem to be obviously achievement-focused (not 3). Because that sounds like a stretch as-is, it fits more contextually into a portrait of Bohr as a generalist who was more interested in simply engaging with ideas rather than packaging them for the sake of “image-orientedness” as Threes are usually characterized. But his legacy is somewhat obviously incongruent with that of somebody like obvious Seven Feynman, and I can see it work its way in there. It just doesn’t seem to add up with the Bohr that loved to blabber on and on to his friends and colleagues to a point of annoyance—you would think a Three would show more restraint and awareness in this regard. I might even argue that the ethical bend to his work was centered around a socially-oriented 6 wing. Also, I’ve read very conflicting accounts of Bohr’s extraversion since my last comment . Some describe him as a notorious extravert and others describe him as people-blind. I’m more partial to the debate-happy outspoken image of him because it turns him really far away from CelebrityTypes’ nonsense INFJ typing but I’m not really sure. 7, 5, or 3 could make sense... but it depends a lot on who he really was.

Editing post #3706 by strawberry crisis <p>LadyX: I would encourage ticking “function vote” for votes that are justified solely by function-based reasoning without direct reference to using function traits to vote for MBTI (i.e. votes that are determined by function analysis are not the same as votes that are determined by dimensional analysis). There are proponents of functions and dimensions belonging to the same system, but the MBTI is tested for using a method surrounding the dimensional model and there is no reasonable correlation between impressions of the functions and the tested-for dimensions. The reason I’m strict about this is because the table for functions and the table for dimensions calculate the entry’s type very differently, and I think function voters wouldn’t be fond of the averaging method that the MBTI table uses since it dissects votes by their dimensions and averages them out. Actually, I’ve set aside a default voting option in the profile editor so that “function vote” is automatically ticked for you without having to go through the effort of ticking it every time you’d want to vote by your preferred function voting method.</p> <p>That all said, I see merit in your 3w4 vote, but Bohr seemed to be a notorious procrastinator <em>as a result of examining things thoroughly</em> which gives me two big impressions: he wasn’t result-oriented and prized a genuine, thorough approach (perceiving in MBTI: staying open-ended by examining things in their full context despite “real-world” ramifications), and did not seem to be obviously achievement-focused (not 3). Because that sounds like a stretch as-is, it fits more contextually into a portrait of Bohr as a generalist who was more interested in simply engaging with ideas rather than packaging them for the sake of “image-orientedness” as Threes are usually characterized. But his legacy is somewhat obviously incongruent with that of somebody like obvious Seven Feynman, and I can see it work its way in there. It just doesn’t seem to add up with the Bohr that loved to blabber on and on to his friends and colleagues to a point of annoyance—you would think a Three would show more restraint and awareness in this regard. I might even argue that the ethical bend to his work was centered around a socially-oriented 6 wing.</p> <p>Also, I’ve read very conflicting accounts of Bohr’s extraversion since my last comment . Some describe him as a notorious extravert and others describe him as people-blind. I’m more partial to the debate-happy outspoken image of him because it turns him really far away from CelebrityTypes’ nonsense INFJ typing but I’m not really sure. 7, 5, or 3 could make sense... but it depends a lot on who he really was.</p>
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	LadyX intp 5 2018/10/18 (Thu) 23:21:14 #3700
	Achieved prominence as a footballer and as a physicist - winning many prizes and joining the intelligent elite - while maintaining high ethical standards. Sounds like Enneagram 3. "In his later years, he devoted his work to the peaceful application of atomic physics and to political problems arising from the development of atomic weapons. In particular, he advocated a development towards full openness between nations." Introverted feeling and Extroverted thinking - NTJ.

Editing post #3700 by LadyX <p>Achieved prominence as a footballer and as a physicist - winning many prizes and joining the intelligent elite - while maintaining high ethical standards. Sounds like Enneagram 3.</p> <p>"In his later years, he devoted his work to the peaceful application of atomic physics and to political problems arising from the development of atomic weapons. In particular, he advocated a development towards full openness between nations." Introverted feeling and Extroverted thinking - NTJ.</p> <p> </p>
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	strawberry crisis enfp 7 2018/05/30 (Wed) 04:24:19 #854
	It’s another Jung case I think where people saw “Ni” and “Ti” and so called forth toward INFJ, and I’m sure CelebrityTypes was no help in that department either. It’s also that same thing people do with philosophers where they try to fit them all into different stacks to differentiate their “intellectual styles” or their “thought processes” as if to provide The Functions with an extra layer of insight that spots differences among people working in the same field that MBTI can’t really touch. He’s described as “nice” and was moved away from working on the atomic bomb (wow, morals) but I reaaaally do not see much of a case for F when he’s spent his life—yes, all the way from his early upbringing—indulging in everything that would signify T. I don’t think he could be J just by reading anything about how he handled his intuitive side and I’m not even sure what makes him introverted? I voted INTP because the usual pattern is INFJ -> INTP but he’s only ever been described as extraverted. He honestly may be an ENTP 7?

Editing post #854 by strawberry crisis <p>It’s another Jung case I think where people saw “Ni” and “Ti” and so called forth toward INFJ, and I’m sure CelebrityTypes was no help in that department either. It’s also that same thing people do with philosophers where they try to fit them all into different stacks to differentiate their “intellectual styles” or their “thought processes” as if to provide The Functions with an extra layer of insight that spots differences among people working in the same field that MBTI can’t really touch. He’s described as “nice” and was moved away from working on the atomic bomb (wow, morals) but I reaaaally do not see much of a case for F when he’s spent his life—yes, all the way from his early upbringing—indulging in everything that would signify T. I don’t think he could be J just by reading anything about how he handled his intuitive side and I’m not even sure what makes him introverted? I voted INTP because the usual pattern is INFJ -> INTP but he’s only ever been described as extraverted. He honestly may be an ENTP 7?</p>
Replying to post #854 by strawberry crisis

date	username	vote
25/08/09 20:35	nicotineseries	NT
25/08/08 17:34	Woll Smoth	NT
23/01/07 23:01	GIJOEBusta Cap	INFJ
20/02/01 13:57	Lol	ENTP
19/07/31 05:08	tch	ENTP
18/10/20 02:02	LadyX	ENTJ
18/05/30 12:50	Khel	ENTP
18/05/30 04:24	strawberry crisis	ENTP

date	username	vote
23/01/07 23:01	GIJOEBusta Cap	INFJ
19/07/31 05:09	tch	INFJ
18/05/30 04:40	strawberry crisis	INFJ

date	username	vote
25/08/13 19:50	Woll Smoth	1w9
25/08/11 22:46	nicotineseries	1w9
23/01/07 23:01	GIJOEBusta Cap	3w2
19/03/20 01:58	Jacobus	1w9
18/10/20 02:04	LadyX	3w2
18/10/20 07:15	strawberry crisis	3w2

date	username	vote
23/01/07 23:01	GIJOEBusta Cap	so/sx
18/10/20 02:02	LadyX	sp/so
18/05/30 04:39	strawberry crisis	so/sx

date	username	vote
18/09/01 19:44	Nyx	ILE
18/05/30 12:50	Khel	ILE
18/05/30 04:39	strawberry crisis	ILE

date	username	vote
25/08/11 22:37	nicotineseries	LVFE
25/08/08 17:34	Woll Smoth	LVFE
20/02/17 15:31	Jacobus	LVFE